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HireMyVA Podcast 112- How do I rest and recover as an entrepreneur?

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Dave Braun
00:00:02
Hey, everybody! Welcome to the HireMyVA Team and Business Building Podcast, brought to you by Yoogozi.com and this podcast, and of course at HireMyVA, we help you to reclaim your freedom through hiring and thriving with virtual assistants without breaking the bank. And that means your bank, which is the most important bank, right Larry? that’s right! Yeah. Well, I’m Dave Braun and you heard that guy piping in he’s my buddy, Larry. Well, we were just talking for the last hour talking about plans and what we’re going to have, maybe a new goal setting system that we’ve got together that we’re going to be rolling out and we’d just be great to help a lot of people. You know, just putting tools together we got in a really nice comprehensive framework. It’s pretty exciting.

Larry Broughton
00:00:49
Handsome, Dave, I love working with happy. me make You you.

Dave Braun
00:00:54
Yeah. I kinda love my shoulders for those of you watching. That’s spikes coming out of my shoulders.

Larry Broughton
00:01:01
It’s very Game of Thrones-ish.

Dave Braun
00:01:05
Well, I’m at, at our timeshare getting a little bit of bonus time here in Southern California, looking at the beach to my left

Larry Broughton
00:01:15
Palm trees.

Dave Braun
00:01:16
And I see a Palm tree over PCH. Yeah. Let’s stop doing this podcast right now. I’m going to go,

Larry Broughton
00:01:24
So let’s finish this up and then you can go play.

Dave Braun
00:01:29
That’s kind of cloudy and cool, but it’s always beautiful, man.

Larry Broughton
00:01:33
Well, we’ve got an interesting topic today, Dave, and it kind of ties in with what you’re doing right now with your beautiful bride.

Dave Braun
00:01:39
Yeah, yeah, yeah. So the question is, is how, and this, this time of year, right? The holiday season, it applies anytime a year. The question is how do I rest and recover as an entrepreneur?

Larry Broughton
00:01:52
Yeah. You know, it reminded me one of the TV spots I did several years ago that you liked to rub in my face once in a while. There’s with Dr. Sudeep bows on CBS,

Dave Braun
00:02:04
THE Larry Broughton!

Larry Broughton
00:02:07
That’s right. But we talked about, he asked me to come on to talk about an article that I had written called the Five Physical Ailments of Success.

Dave Braun
00:02:16
Oh that. remember I yeah.

Larry Broughton
00:02:17
You remember that? I think I could look it up here pretty easy. It’s on Yoogozi. Yeah. And so I talked about a study that I had seen here we go that listed the top ailments that entrepreneurs tend to get through are success driven, which means when, the way they described it as the ramping up their businesses. Now not business that have stabilized because sometimes when a business stabilizes we’re into a better routine. But as you are ramping up your business or you’re moving to a new growth phase, actually I just pulled the article up. Here are the five things that the study showed. Number five is lingering colds makes sense, right? Funky skin conditions. We get stressed out and you get a rash, right? Eczema, those types of things. Back problems- we sit around or on our computers, we’re not exercising . Killer migraines and the thing that I get plugged with more than anything, kidney stones- we are so busy we don’t hydrate enough. So when this question came through, it immediately reminded me of that. But then when you and I were kind of brainstorming this, I think that this one is, this question is a good one, because if we tackle this properly, it’ll prevent most of these ailments.

Dave Braun
00:03:37
Or really mitigate them down.

Larry Broughton
00:03:40
Right? Yeah. That’s a better way to put it. Yes. We can’t guarantee it David.

Dave Braun
00:03:45
Yeah. To guarantee too many things. Well, and I think that, you know, we are in the holiday season and which is great and we definitely do need to know what rest and recovery is. And actually Larry, sometimes this time of year, we need to know that more because we’re so busy doing holiday parties and shopping and getting ready for year end, and then going in and doing stuff with family. I mean, it’s just, it always, almost never ending. And then there’s, you know, we, we’ve got, you know, family at Christmas and, oh, there’s the new year’s party or there’s getting ready for the new year’s party. And then pretty soon if we’re not careful, we’ve gone through the holiday season and we’re more tired than we were when we entered it.

Larry Broughton
00:04:26
We hear it all the time. People complaining about this right. During the holiday season, before we jump in, I want to remind people, I want to hear from you folks, right? How do you recover as a leader? How do you recover as a high achiever or an entrepreneur or a leader. Right. But if you want that article that I just mentioned, just go to Yoogozi.com, and in the little search bar on the the right column there, we call it the right sidebar in the search engine. There just type in five ailments of success and that article will pop right up. You know, Dave as we were talking about this, we said that really, there’s three separate categories that make for a, kind of an easy framework to, or recovery. Cause man, we are on a sprint. We say, Hey, I’m going to sprint for the weekend or I’m going to sprint this week and what ends up happening ultimately, generally that sprint lasts a month or a season and we’re not taking care of ourselves. And so I think that we have to be really disciplined. And this is one of the things that a lot of us are lacking is discipline. But I liked that, that we were talking about this, it was, you know, there are Micro Rest , there are Macro Rest, there are longterm Rest. Right. And I think that did that come from a book that you were, you were, you’ve been reading?

Dave Braun
00:05:47
Well, there’s some ideas there, but it was like, we were talking about it and those are our terms. Right. So we can kind of like you said, put some framework around it and make people understand is what category this is in. It’s always easier for me. I think of, I always try to think in terms of threes, right. It just makes, it makes it easier for me. And hopefully it makes it easier for other people. So the first one, like you said, is Micro Rest, right? You want to talk a little bit about that? Or do you want me to at this time?

Larry Broughton
00:06:13
No, I can. I can hop in here. It’s one of the things that we’re developing, it’s on our list of little webinars to do. It is, these are the small little rest cycles that you need to take throughout the day. A lot of studies have said, you really should not be focused on your work any longer than 90 minutes max. And maybe you got to start off to that. But one of the things I like to talk about is via the Pomodoro technique. Like I’ve got this little kitchen timer, it’s a Pomodoro, it’s a tomato, right?

Dave Braun
00:06:45
Is it To-mey-to, or To-ma-to?

Larry Broughton
00:06:47
Let’s call the whole thing up, Dave. But that technique just in a nutshell is you identify what you’re gonna work on. And then you take a little attention timer, you set it for 25 minutes and then you take it. You work, work, work, work, work, focus, work, work, work. And then it goes off to 25 minutes or 20 minutes. I found I work best at, at 20 minutes top. and then take a five minute break. Just get up, walk around, go outside, get some fresh air. Dave. I get, I get reminded sometimes, do you remember that my office there in Anaheim, there were a couple of times we just went down, stood in the grass, took our shoes and socks off and just went to the grass

Dave Braun
00:07:34
That was so refreshing. Right, right.

Larry Broughton
00:07:37
How often do people actually do that? So go do that for five minutes. Play with the dog for five minutes, listen to music, make yourself a cup of tea. Five minutes. Stop. Alright, go back to your desk or whatever task you’re working on. Set the timer again, 20 to 25 minutes. Do that four times after the fourth, 20 to 25 minute set, you take a longer 15 to 30 minute break where you really just relax. Take a quick little power nap, play with the dog, do whatever, but get away from the work. And what you don’t do Dave is during that 30 minute or a five minute break, you don’t just switch and okay, I’m working on writing my book and I’m going to go check emails for five minutes. No, you have to actually let your brain rest from that. Okay. So those are kind of the little micro stuff. Now we were talking before this, and you talked about this, something with the guy named Jordan, something,

Dave Braun
00:08:42
Jordan Raynor. And if you guys can, if you’re watching this versus listening to them, I’m holding up the book it’s called Redeeming Your Time. And it comes from a perspective of Christ followers, Christians. There’s so much in it that even if you aren’t, you’ll get a lot out of it because he talks about a lot of the different scientific studies and techniques and things that he uses to help his time be more productive. It’s called the book is called Redeeming Your Time. And one of the things that he talks about that really made sense to me was Larry, like on those five minute breaks you talk about, or if you choose to do a 90 minutes and then 15 minutes break, whatever it is, if you are doing work with your mind, then do you want to work with your hands on your break.

Dave Braun
00:09:28
If you’re doing work with your hands and your 90 minutes, then you want to do a break with your mind. So an example of that would be as most of you guys, listening to us are working with your mind most likely, and for the majority of what you’re doing and so a great break is like, what you talked about, Larry is go pet the dog or take the dog for a walk. It could be doing something around the house. It could be laundry. It could be washing the dishes. It could be cleaning out your shed really quick. It could be doing a little bit of the lawn. So it’s something where you’re working with your hands and you’re resting your brain during that time. And then of course, opposite is if you’re doing something like if you’re a carpenter or you know, or a mechanic or something where you’re working a lot with your hands, then you may want to go in and sit down and read a book or read an article on something, or look at your phone and do some social media. That would be a break for you. So I think Larry, what we were talking about beforehand is just try different things and figure out what gives you the most stress. But we promise you it’s the 15 minutes or the five minute break that you do. If you do something similar to what you’re doing in your normal work, that is not going to be rest. You got to do something different.

Larry Broughton
01:10:41
And micro, think about this when like in sports, for instance, and I mean, micro, like small micro breaks, like I follow combat sports, boxing, MMA, that kind of thing. A fighter may step back and drop his arms or in between rounds. They go sit in a corner in the corner and rest for a little bit in between rounds. A tennis player may switch hands that, you know, put the racking of the hand while they’re resting in between sets or whatever it is, small little breaks. They add up, they improve performance. Yes. So you gotta think of your, your body’s really like, very much like a machine, right? And if you just keep the, think about your car, if you just sit your car out in the parking lot, out in your driveway and put it in neutral and just rev that dimension and sit there for an hour with your pet, your foot, to the gas pedal, to the floor, you can do some wear and tear on that car if you do that constantly.

Dave Braun
01:11:44
Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And one of the other things that Jordan Raynor talks about, it’s like it makes sense is of course, you know, there’s the, the rest and recovery cycles and then there’s a productivity cycles. Don’t do something when you’re done with your rest cycle. Well, how do we don’t do your main productivity cycle and do something to where it’s not like taxing on your brain. In other words, the first productivity cycle of the day, don’t check your email, do something that’s a little bit more brain intensive, but that’s, that’s a site it’s fresh. Yeah. While you’re fresh. And we talked about these micro rest to help you stay fresh throughout the day. Yeah. Okay. And then of course we wanna, you know, it’s always a good idea to take a lunch break and Larry, you want to talk about how I do my naps, why I have a nap every day? Why I have an hour, my calendar blocked out from 1:00 PM to 2:00 PM and we got to get this done in 15 minutes.

Larry Broughton
01:12:47
Tick tock, man!

Dave Braun
01:12:50
So then I’ll go, I’ll go and fixed myself some lunch and relax a little bit. Sometimes I’ll catch up on the news, but then I will set a timer for 27 minutes, a countdown timer. And then I will take a nap. Sometimes I don’t use all of that time, but I usually use most of it. And the reason why it’s 27 minutes is because Daniel Pink wrote a book called “When” about how important it is to do certain things, certain tasks when your body clock is most aligned with the, that type of a task itself, like if you’re a morning person and an evening person, when you do your creative times, when you do your detailed work, that kind of stuff. And he talks about what, what works for him for naps. If you take, if you start taking a nap longer than 15 or 20 minutes, it’s going to be harder to wake up, you’ll wake up and you’ll be groggy. So he talks about keeping it to that. And then he adds, he typically would add five minutes, cause it takes a little bit of time to wind down and get to sleep. And so I experimented with that and I just ended up picking 27 minutes and I’m good to go when the alarm goes off.

Larry Broughton
01:14:03
How long have you been doing that now?

Dave Braun
01:14:05
Actually, I think I’ve been doing that for at least a year, if not two years. I’ve been, I was taking naps before. And the reason why is I remember reading about some of the studies that NASA did with the astronauts, right? And then taking little naps, sleeping up in their capsules, allowed them to do more exacting and detailed work at a higher level. Once they were done with our naps,

Larry Broughton
01:14:27
There are a lot of business owners, CEOs, high performers that I know who take naps. You know, in my former company, we had a little, we had a, a dark room that had massage chairs and you know, my office in Anaheim had a sofa in it. Right. I think it’s really important to be competitive. And I know that people chuckle at it and you’re going to hear people, you know, oh, I go on little sleep. I’m going to go at a hard charging for 12 hours in my office. Those badges of honor, aren’t you really not productive be you’re honest with yourself, you’re not productive. You get distracted chasing the social media of rabbit down a hole and it’s your brain because it’s tired. It needs arrest. And so you get distracted.

Dave Braun
01:15:17
Yeah. You know, I was, and I’ve heard from several people and I’ll just repeat what I’ve heard from several folks is that, you know, there isn’t time management, right? There’s no real time management. We’ve all got the same amount of time in the day. Really more energy management. Right. In our case, what we’re talking about is pretty much, you know, more for, for folks who listen to us is brain energy management.

Larry Broughton
01:15:39
Yeah. Yeah. Well, that is a good way to lead us into this, the middle phase here, which is the Macro. I remember early on in my entrepreneurial career, after I’ve gotten out of the military, I was really getting into the business arena. I didn’t take time off. I was still hard charging it. Like I was military and I was getting grumpy and hangry. And, and finally, you know, I remember I got around to becoming my business partner saying, you know, you need to schedule time off. If you don’t schedule it, there will always be something to do, but put it in your calendar. And I used to have excuse I can’t, I’ve got this going on and I got that going on. And he said, I want to see in your calendar, come back then a day-timers right. Franklin Covey, take, hire, and show me that you blocked out at least a half day a week for the next month, at least a half day.

Larry Broughton
01:16:37
And then it’s going to go to the next month. It’s a full day, the next month. It’s two days off a week. You have to take off. You are no good to anyone else. If you’re a burned out, you know what I’ve found it after I got disappointed, I know this is resonating with some folks, Dave, because we know some of the listeners to this podcast about having to take time off what I found after like the first month when I was really taking a full day off. And by the way, but not checking email, like you just have out of office responders on like, and I mean really taking time off, I was coming back more creative. Yeah. I remember that for after working for several years of not taking a vacation, I took two weeks off. Yeah, I got it. And I came back and I had so many brilliant ideas that people sort of saying, please don’t take any more time off. You’re coming back with so many ideas. Now we have to implement them the company.

Dave Braun
01:17:35
Wow.

Larry Broughton
01:17:38
But that’s getting ahead on the more long-term stuff. Right. But truly, truly, truly for your long-term health, for the health of your relationships, for the health of your, spouse and all of that kind of stuff. You’ve got to take time off during the week, these micro breaks are not micro the macro rest taking a day off a week or at least a half day for anyone in the who in the Christian Judeo religions, you know, they call it a sabot taking the Sabbath, which was supposed to be just a day of rest. And frankly, the Western workweek was built around

Dave Braun
01:18:16
That’s right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think one of the things to remember too, for us is that, you know, we have not, I don’t know. How would you say evolved to, I mean, we’ve had how many thousands of years of normal work rest cycles, part of it’s because we couldn’t work at night, it was hard to with light and all that kind of stuff. But now it’s so different. We can really, if we wanted to work 24 7 and yeah. And some do, and that, of course that leads to burnout. But one of the things I think that’s so important is, you know, especially you may have trouble taking that Sabbath or that day off, but just to, to remind you that somebody like Tony Robbins, somebody like them, if they are hard charging for a weekend, I know what he does is he takes a whole day afterwards, totally off no computer, nothing to be with his family to recharge. And you know, then there’s one other aspect that we want to talk about here as far as recharging is your sleep hygiene. Oh

Larry Broughton
01:19:23
My gosh. And so underrated

Dave Braun
01:19:26
It is, and here’s Larry where we’re going to talk about we’re don’t necessarily practice as much as we preach. I’m doing better. Yeah. So Cheryl, I’ll tell you a story. Cheryl, my wife, she went to like a sleep doctor, not too long ago, and she’s going to do get one of those studies about sleep apnea and all that. But the doctor was very helpful in, in saying here’s what you really, really, really need to do. And it’s not like we didn’t really know that, but it’s it just emphasized it to us. So maybe we should talk about a few of those good sleep habits. The sleep is so critical, right? Sleep is, you know, it helps regulate our hormones. If we don’t sleep enough, we can gain weight. The, the levels of stress. We don’t recover from that. In fact, what are the levels cortisol levels? And in fact, good sleep shows that it allows our brains to process the stuff throughout the day so that when we get up, we can be more creative and be more enthused for our work.

Larry Broughton
02:20:29
There’s been a lot of studies on sleep and it show that it extends your life five to 10 years, if you have good, consistent, and it’s the key consistent sleep hygiene. I remember years ago, it was kind of like a badge of honor that people had, oh, I only sleep for five hours you know a night, and so everyone, all these young entrepreneurs thought well, if he only gets five hours of sleep a night, I can only get five hours of sleep a night because they were saying, you know, I get up two hours earlier than anybody else so that, I’m working two hours, you know, more than my competitors every day. And that’s 10 hours a week and that’s blown, you know, they do. They extrapolate that out. Yeah. Well that might work for you, you might be an outlier. But for most people they will be more productive.

Larry Broughton
02:21:17
They’ll be more creative if they’re getting at least six, but most people say seven to eight, maybe even nine hours of sleep. I think that depending on how much you sprint Dave, but I mean both emotionally and physically, you need more recuperation time. Yes. I can think of times when I was really super physically fit, which I’m not right now. If I were to do my spider graph, the physical, I probably would be a four, maybe, you know, and I used to pride myself in running and then nine, eight and a half to nine range. So during those sheets, that’s when I was super physically fit where my spiritual life was strong. My relations relationships were strong and I was killing it on the finance side. And on the professional side I needed rest because every part of my body and soul and spirit and mind was taxed. Right. And so if you are a high achiever, you must get sleep. You must get physical and emotional and just rest, you have to rest your machine. You got to take your foot off the accelerator.

Dave Braun
02:22:25
Absolutely.

Larry Broughton
02:22:28
I mean, it does make sense, you know, and it’s kinda one of those TFTR things. Right? Thanks for the reminder we know this, we need to be reminded of it. Right. Gotta take it, you know, between hydrate and sleep hygiene.

Dave Braun
02:22:44
Yeah. Let’s do a few quick techniques. So one of the things that’s important about sleep is make it a routine, make it regular. You know, I’ve got a new grandson, he’s one and a half old and that’s one of the first things that Brian and Noel and my son and daughter-in-law did is get Logan on a schedule. Because it’s important. My niece and nephew they’ve got, their kids are older. They’re still on it on a schedule, which is really important. So like for example, figure out when it is, if you’re gonna try to get your eight hours of sleep, starting to go from 10:00 PM to 6:00 AM. Start your bedtime routine at nine o’clock turn off the TVs, no phone, no, nothing as much as you can make sure your bedroom is what, what the sleep doctor said

Larry Broughton
02:23:30
Yeah, go ahead. Pause for a sec. Some studies have shown that you should have at least 60 minutes of screen-free time prior to sleep. Yeah. No computer, no phone, no TV for an hour before sleep.

Dave Braun
02:23:44
And that’s hard for some people. And again, Larry, I think part of this is what works for you. Right? and so, but you, there’s no reason why book- physical a read know you something, read to want you if routine, that start you when can’t, you

Larry Broughton
02:24:00
they still make those, can they still make those well, listen, when you can listen to one or music or whatever.

Dave Braun
02:24:08
So one of the things that sleep doctor talked to Cheryl about, she said, use your bedroom only for and sex or sleep. Don’t watch TV in it. Typically don’t read books maybe a little bit, but not much, you know, keep it as dark as possible, get rid of any light. And then I also heard about trying to keep your bedroom cooler at night because your body, you sleep better. So those are a few techniques. And of course no caffeine, you know, past like 4:00 PM around that time or 5:00 PM, no caffeine. And don’t eat too late because the last thing you want to do is be woken up with indigestion because you’re laying flat and you know, you got all that acid kicking up, so don’t eat too late. So those are a few tips that I’ve got. You have anything?

Larry Broughton
02:25:01
No, I think those are, those are the major ones. Yeah.

Dave Braun
02:25:05
There’s oh, there’s other ones too. Like sometimes what will help me is I’ll use a noise maker,

Larry Broughton
02:25:10
Ambient-

Dave Braun
02:25:13
Ambient noise. Like for example,

Larry Broughton
02:25:15
I’m not the party, So I’m going asleep machine. So it might be waves. It might be crickets.

Dave Braun
02:25:25
Yeah. Cause sometimes I’ll wake up after a few hours, sleep in my mind will be going. And that helps if you do wake up and your mind is going, you know, maybe you can get up really quick and write it down and get it out of your brain or turn a noisemaker on and get back to sleep.

Larry Broughton
02:25:40
Well, I would, let me tell you my very quick experience on getting up and writing it down. The other things I would add in there between the cool room and all that kind of stuff we talked about the no screen time is to do your gratitude journal. You think like, what am I gonna do for an hour? If I turn off the TV, what between turning on some soothing music, dimming your light, brushing your teeth, washing your face, doing your gratitude journal, doing a little bit of listening or reading that’s that’s an hour. And by the way, I, when I’m really at my best, I’m physically slowing down. You see media, I move at a pretty quick pace, right? Like physically, if I’m going to go get a cup of coffee and get going to get a cup of coffee, I’m going to go, I move at a quick pace. And so I intentionally slow my movements down as well. I’ll meander to the kitchen, you know, on the end or to the bathroom, you know, like watching me brush my teeth in the morning is a lot different than watching me brush my teeth at night.

Larry Broughton
02:26:42
I mean, no, I do it with a sense of urgency. Yeah. In the morning.

Dave Braun
02:26:46
Yeah. Cause it’s like, you’re excited and you want to get the day going and

Larry Broughton
02:26:50
The shower I take in the morning, it’s much faster than the shower I take at night.

Dave Braun
02:26:53
oh, Yeah. That make sense.

Larry Broughton
02:26:54
Yeah. You know, I linger a little bit longer. I’m prepping for, right. So I think the gratitude thing is an important thing too. Can you start training your mind for rest? Now, what I used to do, Dave is what you just said. That if I had things in my mind, I used to have my to-do list right next to my bed. And I was training myself. If something popped in my brain, I would write it down. So what I do now, and I wait, if I something going through my mind, if I, I truly cannot rest and it’s really driving me crazy, then yes, I will get up. I’ll come to my desk, I’ll write it down. And I’ll get pretty deep breathing exercises and go back to bed. I don’t have that. I don’t have my to do list in my bedroom any longer. That was training my brain to wake up, to write the darn thing down.

Dave Braun
02:27:42
That’s right

Larry Broughton
02:27:42
Now what I do is I say, okay, okay. It woke me up. I’m letting you go. It was important. It’ll come back to me.

Dave Braun
02:27:50
True. It will normally, well, I do know that there’s times when, if, if there is something that’s waking you up in the middle of the night and you can’t get the sleep, you can be running it over and over and over in your brain. That’s creating a loop that you’re just, you, you can’t even think about not thinking about it then. Yeah. Yeah. Get it out of your brain. Hopefully though. That’s the minority of the time. Yeah, that’s right. Yeah. Well, let’s jump in a few long-term things, right? We’re we’re talking about weekends and longer vacation,

Larry Broughton
02:28:17
Like full weekend. Like this is where it’s two days off. Get ready for this day in a row. Two whole

Dave Braun
02:28:23
Days in a

Larry Broughton
02:28:24
Row. Yeah.

Dave Braun
02:28:28
Yeah. You know, you know, I, one of the things that’s important to me too is that, and this is what you can do a practical thing with your team to force you guys to take some tea and some time off is give your team a week off. So Larry, what happened when I was, when I was in my, my career, we worked in a semiconductor company. It was Rockwell at the time and then change the connection. But we were there working in the office area that was in the same building, but where the factory was. And so what they would do is they would take two weeks at the end of the year, around Christmas and new year’s obviously. And they would shut the factory down for maintenance, which meant that they would turn power off and on the whole time. And so we couldn’t work.

Dave Braun
02:29:18
So they make us take some vacation and give us some time off. And what was really awesome about that was is everybody in the team was off almost then there was very, very light support needed by anybody. So you weren’t, it wasn’t like you’d come back from that time off and have a Jillian emails when you take the time off. So it was awesome to be able to take the whole time off. So that’s one thing that I’m doing and my company is I’m giving the team off. Now we’ve got a rotating schedule for support in case clients need it, but we’re telling clients we’re not going to be around except for emergencies. The team’s going to be off. So we can really relax and get our brains rested. And you know, if somebody is inclined to do it, then it might, they may want to take a course on something. But I think though that that’s going to end up being where they’re excited about it. They want to do it. It’s part of their strengths and it’s actually going to feed well. as them

Larry Broughton
03:30:21
Yeah. I just want to give people permission here for a second. You don’t, don’t feel guilty if you’re in a season where you’re not taking time off, we have all been there. You’ve all been there. Right? I mean, we’re kind of loud, Dave. We’re just not a call last week. I think it was with one of our coaching clients. Right. And that she’s about ready to take her first vacation. And how many years did she say since she launched years? three her?

Dave Braun
03:30:44
For sure.

Larry Broughton
03:30:45
Whatever. It’s been like, she, she’d never taken a vacation. I think it’s three years. Right. And the first one is going to be out of the country. Right. And so she had to wait, so let’s go through that. And this is what, so she was on a virtual spotlight session

Dave Braun
03:31:02
She’s in our Q and A

Larry Broughton
03:31:04
Q and A that’s what it wasn’t one of the monthly QA calls. So it was a good question. Like, how do I do this? What do I need, what do I need to be aware of like emergency contact list and contacting your vendors and contacting your key clients and those kinds of things. And that’s where some of these Q and a calls that we do come in, they’re really handy because it can be as complex of an issue as like reorganization or refinancing to bury something that simple, but questions like, how do we take a vacation? What do I need to think about?

Dave Braun
03:31:37
Well, and, and, and what’s, so what’s so important about having access to that to our course and community and especially our community where you can ask the Q and A’s, we do those monthly now in a little bit of teaching is that sometimes these questions, it’s not like you’re going to think ahead of time. Sometimes these questions come up just like that. And you need to get an answer to it because you’re having a problem in your business. Or like for this person, they needed to get ready to go on vacation. What do I need to do?

Larry Broughton
03:32:03
Right. Right. Right. Well, this reminds me, Dave, I was used to be in a mastermind years ago. It’s a high-end mastermind in big businesses in it. And one of the guys who was like one of my heroes guy named George Lanza. So he’s a business broker and he shocked everyone in the mastermind. I think there were 12 or 13 of us in there. And, and he used to take one month off a quarter. Some of you folks have heard me talk about this before one month, every quarter he took off. And what he would say is I can sprint for eight weeks. If I know they’re going to take four weeks off afterwards, he built his life around this. And he was married, had a wonderful wife. And they were very happy. They traveled regularly. Right. So he didn’t just take a month off and sit at home.

Larry Broughton
03:32:45
They went and did stuff and they come back to hand and excited and you know, and he built an infrastructure. This is what he and Dora had said, Hey, we’re going to build our life around this. And so a lot of us like, oh, that’s, that’s really awesome. So you can do it. But it reminded me of professional sports teams where they have a season X number of weeks long. They’re going to bust their hump during that time. And never take time off when they’re going to refresh rejuvenate, do the surgery or whatever it is that they needed to do to be prepared for the next season. I think that’s one way to look at the longterm breaks and rest so that you can maintain a positive trajectory in your life and in your business.

Dave Braun
03:33:29
Yeah. And I think, and sometimes you do need to, to, to have the experiences with your spouse or your family, you do need to take those extended times off. I remember one time, years ago when the kids were just in high school, we took a cruise to Alaska and we did some land tours and stuff. We were gone for two weeks and it was like one of the best vacations ever memories that I wouldn’t trade a million dollars for $10 million for. It was so awesome. Yeah. If you don’t plan or you don’t, if you feel like you can never take a week or two off, you’re never going to have those experiences because life is, I mean, yeah. We love our businesses and we get so much significance through those, but so many great things happen when we have these amazing experiences and to get some of those experiences, we got to take a little bit of extended time off.

Larry Broughton
03:34:22
Yep. I think that’s really good. Hey Dave. You know, the great thing about working at home now is that you get to see what goes on in life. And my dog is flipping the heck out. It has to go out. So let’s wrap this thing up.

Dave Braun
03:34:39
All right. Well, thank you everybody for joining us today for joining us at timeshare and with Bodie and it’s life is fun and crazy. Remember though, building a team is the way to reclaim your freedom and allows you to do some of this stuff. We’re here to help you with our course and community and our white glove service and our Q and A’s we’re. And with all of that stuff, we help you in so many different ways, including helping you find a rockstar VA. And so you guys do us a favor and do a few things for us really quick, subscribe to the podcast. If you haven’t already done so using your phone, of course, and subscribe on YouTube, hit the subscribe button and click on the little bell next to it, to get reminders. Number two, give us a rating. Obviously we want five star, but leave us a rating. A, put a comment below this video. Any comment, tell us how you rest. Tell us what works for you, because you don’t know how many people you may be helping by giving them a new idea, a new way. And then number three, go to hiremy.com for more information about all the stuff we’ve talked about, our course, our community, our white glove service. And remember even without experience, you’ll learn how to prepare for hire and thrive with virtual assistants. So join us, go to hiremyva.com for more information.

Larry Broughton
03:35:57
Yes. And Hey, I’ve been sprinting for about 90 minutes now, I’m going to go take a break with Bodie, get a little mental health and physical break by, by walking around the block a little bit, but I just want to remind you of folks. Do yourself a favor, do the world a favor, go do something really significant today. All right, God bless you, God keep you, God hold of you. We’ll see you next time. Thanks everybody.

Dave Braun
03:36:22
Bye.

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