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HireMyVA Podcast 130- How to recover from burnout while still working Part 2

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This is part 2 of a 3-part episode, and part 1 was episode 129, where we went over 10 things to do to avoid or recover from burnout.

We’re going to give you ANOTHER 10 things in this episode, and a few more in the next.

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Dave Braun
00:00:05
Hello folks. Welcome to the HireMyVA Team and Business-Building Podcast, brought to you by Yoogozi.com. In this podcast and at HireMyVA, we help you to reclaim your freedom through hiring and thriving with virtual assistants without breaking the bank- and of course that means your bank, the most important bank. Folks, I’m Dave Braun and I’m on with my usual best buddy, partner in crime, Larry Broughton. And we’re here to answer your questions. And of course, answer our own questions about team and business building, and sometimes even life. Larry, tell me.

Larry Broughton
00:00:39
Hello handsome, Dave. How are you, my friend?

Dave Braun
00:00:43
Yeah. I’m doing great. I had somebody tell me, yeah, I listen to all your episodes, and yeah handsome Dave.

Larry Broughton
00:00:52
Oh really? It’s sticking, right?

Dave Braun
00:00:56
I know. It’s sticking. Yeah.

Larry Broughton
00:01:00
Your haircut. Since I last saw you,

Dave Braun
00:01:01
I did.

Larry Broughton
00:01:02
You are quite handsome.

Dave Braun
00:01:03
I did. Well, thank you. It feels better to have less weight up here. Helps my neck, I guess.

Larry Broughton
00:01:09
All right. I think we got a part two here if I remember it correctly.

Dave Braun
00:01:16
We do.

Larry Broughton
00:01:18
Yeah.

Dave Braun
00:01:19
Okay. This is part two. This is episode 130, and 129 was part one, but we’re gonna answer the same question and which is normally what you do with a part two. Right, Larry? Is that the way it works?

Larry Broughton
00:01:31
Sequel perhaps? Yes.

Dave Braun
00:01:33
There you go. And normally in movies, how often is the second part the best? Not quite a bit. Anyway, here is the question: How do I avoid burnout? And what do I do if I’m burned out, especially while still working?

Larry Broughton
00:01:53
Yeah. This has been on my mind, I guess it was last week, I guess when we recorded part one. It’s been on my mind a lot lately, Dave, just for personal — I mean, you know what’s going on in my life. Right? I’ve got all kinds of stuff, but like we did last time, Dave, I know there can be a lot of folks who are kind of jumping right into this one and they’re not gonna go back and listen to part one. We encourage you to go back and listen to part one, but I know some of you are not going to, even if you like Larry. And just because we have asked you to do it, you’re gonna say screw that I’m not gonna do it. So let me— I think first we have is maybe define what is burnout.

Dave Braun
00:02:31
Yeah. Really quickly. We can do that real quick.

Larry Broughton
00:02:34
Yeah.

Dave Braun
00:02:34
We had it in the other episode.

Larry Broughton
00:02:36
I know but some people aren’t gonna go look at that. So maybe I can do it in two or three sentences. Burnout, it’s really just a form of exhaustion that is caused by just feeling absolutely swamped. And as a result, I guess it comes from an extreme and ongoing — and that’s kinda one of the key here, ongoing emotional and physical, mental stress. Oftentimes, not always, oftentimes when we talk about burnout is related to our job. Right? But it creeps in when we’re overwhelmed, when we’re emotionally depleted and we’re just trying to deal with life’s incessant demands. You know, that tends to be what burnout is. It’s emotional and physical and mental exhaustion.

Dave Braun
00:03:31
And I think it’s, it’s continuous, right? It’s not to where every single — let me back up. So as entrepreneurs, we’re gonna have days where it’s just gonna suck and we’re like, we want to quit and we want to roll over and pull the covers over our head. There’s gonna be days like that every now and then, but that’s really, really gotta be the exception. If it’s not, then you’re headed to burnout or you’re there.

Larry Broughton
00:03:58
Yeah. That’s why I tried in the beginning, I put emphasis on is that is It’s the continuous feeling of it being swamped and overwhelmed. That’s what leads to burnout. Cause as you said, you’re gonna have days that are just gonna suck and things are coming at you from every different direction. That’s not burnout. That’s just a crappy day.

Dave Braun
00:04:16
And in reality, it may not be that way. Meaning, you may not have a ton of stuff to do, but you feel it. Right? That’s the thing, feel it. And of course, we’ve talked about stress before. How stress can be good, the right kind of stress. We need to have stress in our lives to grow in every area and you know, especially physically and mentally, emotionally, spiritually. We need certain types of stress, but it needs to be a period for a period of time. That’s why in professional sports, they have the extreme stress of the season and the postseason, but then they have the off-season, where they get to spend some time recovering.

Larry Broughton
00:04:53
Yeah. So we remind people, these are the couple of the ones that we talked about already, or just jump into it. It’s up to you.

Dave Braun
00:05:03
Maybe we can talk about a couple of them that were really important to us.

Larry Broughton
00:05:08
Okay. Go ahead.

Dave Braun
00:05:10
So maybe one of the first ones I think that really, really helps and helps us both survive are the friendships and relationships. The key ones in your life where you can feel like you’re safe with other people. And we go and expand on that a lot in the previous episode. So listen to that. But I think that is really, really, really important.

Larry Broughton
00:05:31
Yeah. The couple for me is, I think we talked about in the last one that we’re actually gonna do a topic on this at some point soon. It’s actually considered therapy, but also journaling really helps. It helps put things in perspective because sometimes when we write things down, Dave, they’re not as big and grandiose as we really think they are in our minds, in the moment. And also I think getting some physical exercise, that’s one of the things I’ve been really doing lately. Actually now I’m getting some movement, getting some sun on me. But the physical movement seems to alleviate some of the stress too.

Dave Braun
00:06:04
Oh, it does. It does it —

Larry Broughton
00:06:05
But there’s a whole list. I think we hit — went into detail on seven or eight or nine maybe, in the previous episode.

Dave Braun
00:06:12
Yep. Something like that. So let’s go into some of the other ways because we have a pretty darn big list of all the different things and so let’s get to those. Well, maybe one of them I think the next one we wanna talk about would be volunteering with an organization to serve others less fortunate than yourself.

Larry Broughton
00:06:33
I like that.

Dave Braun
00:06:34
Yeah. You know, some of the stuff that I do and you know, it’s great to volunteer and that’s awesome. But what really helps reset your perspective? Because sometimes burnout can be caused by, we get a skewed perspective that’s all about us and it’s my issues, and it’s my problems. And your world starts becoming all around you as opposed to getting outside of yourself. And especially to people, working with people that are less fortunate than you.

Larry Broughton
00:07:07
Yeah. It’s the perspective thing, right? Like I really don’t have it that bad. You hear sometimes people talk about, you know — that’s a first-world problem when they’re making fun of themselves. Right? And so I think that’s a really good one. And I use this reminder oftentimes, and I don’t honestly, folks don’t jump on me because I don’t know who really needs to get credit for this saying, but I’ve heard Mother Teresa often time accredited for it or attributed for it, that there is no higher calling and serving others, but this is where the volunteering come comes in.

Dave Braun
00:07:42
Yeah. And I think it’s important to volunteer. There’s gonna be times when you’re gonna recognize that you are in a better place than other people from — you know — maybe all kinds of different perspectives, but you can recognize it. But if you’re actually serving those people, I think that would really help you win burnout. So let me give you an example. Some of the stuff that I do, you know, with the jails going in, when I see some of the guys —

Larry Broughton
00:08:06
Don’t just brush over that, because some people don’t know.

Dave Braun
00:08:09
Okay. Well, one of the things that I do is on occasion, go into some of the local jails and do protestant services. Do like a little sermon, all that kind of stuff and lead them in singing, which is — So anyway, just going into a place like that is like, oh my gosh, I’m so thankful for the great decisions I’ve made in life. They’ve never been perfect of course and I have my own problems, but holy smokes, it’s nothing compared to those guys.

Larry Broughton
00:08:41
One decision away could have you that.

Dave Braun
00:08:43
Oh yeah, absolutely. I’m just so thankful that I made some great decisions. So Larry, let me contrast that with something else that just happened this last week at church is that — actually it was the week before — sitting, you know, we’re like to sit in front, Cheryl and me, and then there was an open space in the first row in front of us. And there were, I think there were three people in wheelchairs, electric wheelchairs that rolled up and they were worshiping and praising —

Larry Broughton
00:09:13
A gang? Gang activity?

Larry Broughton
00:09:16
Wheelchair people.

Dave Braun
00:09:17
Yeah, I guess. But no, they were there and they were praising and it just, it made me feel grateful and thankful how, you know, I’m so physically healthy, but that does that in and of itself that made me feel fortunate and help, but it doesn’t didn’t do anything for, for burnout. It’s not very long lasting. That’s why it’s important to volunteer somewhere on a regular basis. It’s not like a one time thing in which is good, but it’s better to do it continually like what you guys have done in the past pre pandemic at Broughton hotels with the sandwiches and the lunches that you guys would do once a month. That was amazing.

Larry Broughton
01:10:00
Yeah. So Dave’s talking about is that we would stop everything that we’re doing in the home office, no matter whether we had clients there or not. And if clients were there, they’d have to come in and help us. We’d make about 200 sack lunches or an area, teen shelter and homeless shelter program. Yeah. And that was fun. It brought, it built a sense of camaraderie, but we’re also serving the community at the same time.

Dave Braun
01:10:30
Yeah. Yeah. So those things really, really help because if you do those on a regular basis and help you really re reset your perspective and say, you know, it is, this life is not all about me and it will help you to maybe get over the hump a little bit of your burnout.

Larry Broughton
01:10:47
Well, it’s interesting because it does bring up and maybe we just need to get a little bit more specific on this. You, but you and I have both alluded to it, but I do believe that by getting in touch with our spiritual side and maybe recognizing that maybe, maybe just, maybe it’s not an accident that we’re here in pursuing that, even if you don’t come up with a solid formal sense of belief about it, the pursuit of a spiritual thing really grounds a lot of people, which is a little bit nutty. And that’s how I kind of came, you know, the faith system that I have is just through searching, you know? And so getting intentional about that and what I have found through that morning meditation and reading and setting my intentions for the day, it takes the anxiety away.

Larry Broughton
01:11:44
One of the things I like to remind folks is that gratitude and anxiety can’t live in the same space at the same time. Right. And so that spiritual quest, just asking the questions, why am I here? What am I doing? Like, is this really what I’m supposed to be here? Is there something that’s bigger than me out there? I think that really brings peace and understanding for a lot of people. And one of the conversations, I just feel that in, I gut to say it, one of the conversations you and I, I and our, our group last week started talking about is, you know, psychedelics in a lot of religious, you know, circles over the millennia. It’s very interesting just to pursue the knowledge from that, the pursuit of, you know, asking I’m just a big one, like asking questions when it comes to the spiritual stuff. So I, I am no theologian by the way. And everything I say may be wrong, but I do, I know that in my deepest seasons of burnout, Dave, you notice that it’s been this quest that has kind of kept me more grounded and put, put things in perspective.

Dave Braun
01:12:55
Yeah. And it, it’s kind of feeding something that really energizes you, that helps to refresh you mentally helps to reset your perspective is that learning about other things, cuz you’re an, a avid researcher and, and reader and listener and, and all that. And you Larry, you’re able to synthesize a lot of inform pretty quickly, pretty quickly. Yeah. So, and share it with others. That’s pretty cool.

Larry Broughton
01:13:22
Yeah. Yeah.

Dave Braun
01:13:23
And you know, speaking of that, I think that lends to, you know, one of the things that’s so important to help you with burnout is to think about your strengths. You know, be, this is one things we’ve talked about in several podcasts about, you know, the Gallup strengths finder assessment and you know, figuring out what your top five are and hopefully all of them. But the idea then is to help you avoid burnout is figuring out what those are, but spend time, especially at the beginning of the day, feeding what those strengths are. So for example, remember Keith Bald –

Larry Broughton
01:14:00
Hello?

Dave Braun
01:14:02
You remember Keith Baldwin?

Larry Broughton
01:14:03
Of course.

Dave Braun
01:14:04
So remember he sent us these mugs. If you guys can’t see this you’re listening, I’ve got a mug that shows my top five strengths- learner, analytical, intelletion related and discipline. So learners my top and a lot of people have that, which means if you want to help yourself avoid burnout, do something at the beginning of every day to learn, learn something.

Larry Broughton
01:14:28
And conversely, try to stay away from those areas where you just, it’s not in your strength. That’s where a lot of burnout in organizations and individuals comes from yes. Is that they’re working outside their strengths. And you had mentioned the Gallup, I’m sorry. It’s now called the, the Clifton Strengths Finders. Yeah. But it’s one of the reasons why you and I are such big avid believers in those types of assessments, including the Kolbe A index or the Octogram to identify if you are in a role where you’re expected to be a pioneer or a visionary or a strategist, but you’re more of an analytical type. Who’s a high fact finder, but you’re, you’re kind of forced that’s me.

Dave Braun
01:15:11
Yeah.

Larry Broughton
01:15:12
But you’re forced out there on the edge. It scares the hell outta you. And there’s anxiety that comes in. Whereas somebody like me, I thrive on that. I like to be the guy that’s on the edge of the building. Who’s gonna jump off and I’ll figure it out as I fall, you know, I’ll build the plane on the way down. So you need to understand yourself these in these areas. And so imagine if you’re the business owner or CEO of an organization and you can take the pulse of your organization, realize that there’s a lot of burnout in the organization. You might wanna ask yourself, are my team members working in their strengths? And if it’s you personally, you need to do a little bit of an assessment and say, okay, like maybe the three column we talk about often. And if you don’t know what that is, put a note in the comments, wherever you’re listening to this podcast and we’ll get back to you, but identify, what am I doing on a daily basis is sucking my life blood. Right? And then you gotta delete delegate, defer or do those things. So that I think is really important. Identify your strengths, work your strengths as much as possible. Most surveys are showing that we spend about single digits of our day working in our strengths. Most of the time is spent working in areas that are outside our strengths, no wonder we feel burned out or frustrated. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Good one too.

Dave Braun
01:16:33
And that can be a, that can actually be a very heel process. So in other words, you know, maybe you like me, if I have to spend a lot more time as a visionary, which is outside of my strengths, according to, you know, during the norm normal week. Yeah. If I can take, you know, a Saturday or Sunday or another day off and not do that, that’s very restorative.

Larry Broughton
01:16:53
Yeah. Yeah. And we’ve kind of alluded to this Dave about knowing yourself, right? It does take a little bit of really study in your Naval. And my senses, Dave, is that you’re not gonna know this until you have lived life a little bit, and that is this. We gotta know our breaking point.

Dave Braun
01:17:10
Mm.

Larry Broughton
01:17:11
You know, we’ve gotta be able to see the little dot on the horizon of that train heading toward for us, you know, and then start taking course corrective action as soon as you see that dot on the horizon, heading our way. If you don’t recognize that train until it is on you, this is where hospitalization comes in. This is where physical and emotional and spiritual breakdown happens is when we just don’t recognize it. And that frankly, Dave, just comes from bad experiences and maturity being able to recognize, recognize it. I don’t know anyone who can kind of again, I’m not a theologian. I’m not an expert on some of this stuff. I’m just sharing you with you. My thoughts, it takes somebody who’s really aware to know that they’re approaching burnout if they’ve never been in there before. So you have to recognize the warning signs. I’m feeling anxious, I’m avoiding, I’m procrastinating, I’m snapping at my love partners, I’m calling and sick to work. Those things are all warning signs that should help you identify what your breaking point is. Does that make sense?

Dave Braun
01:18:28
Yeah. Yeah. And, and a companion that is for you to be aware of that is what we talked about in the previous episode is journaling.

Larry Broughton
01:18:36
Oh yeah, yeah.

Dave Braun
01:18:37
You know, if you’re starting to feel like, Hey, I’m starting to hate my life or hate my job or whatever, it’s time to be journaling and seeing is this a continual thing?

Larry Broughton
01:18:50
Yeah.

Dave Braun
01:18:51
Yeah. And, and like you said, Larry, it’s good to do it before you reach that breaking point, be breaking point because then you can maybe rationally do something about it. If you get into the hospital, what are you gonna do about it? I mean, you’re messed up for a long time.

Larry Broughton
01:19:06
Yeah. Yeah. It’s interesting, Dave, in that, like the last few you of these that we’ve talked about, including, you know, identifying or get in touch with your spiritual side and knowing your breaking point and some of the kind of side topics we’ve talked about, kinda lead into this next one. If you’re aware of that, then you can identify like, what’s your why. You hear this all the time, people have written books about this, right? In fact, we got part of my victory book that focuses on this. What’s your vision, what’s the mission for your business and for your life, cuz those things should spur us on towards excellence. It should spur us on towards reaching our fullest potential. It should inspire us to do great things. And when you focus on that aspirational thing, you tend to accept like, yeah, I’m gonna have to get down.

Larry Broughton
01:19:50
It’s like, okay, I wanna get to 10% that body fat. And I wanna weigh 245 pounds. That’s not gonna happen just by me. You know, wishing upon the star, I’m gonna have to get down and do the hard work. I’m gonna have to do the pushups. I’m gonna have to get into the gym. But I’ve gotta have that goal. And that’s what your vision, your mission, your why is, and it really ought be more than just the piles of cash that you wanna be rolling on your bed. For me, it’s about my children and building legacy. And making an impact on, on the world that really needs to be aspirational. And when you have that kind of aspirational, lofty goal, you’re willing to take a few more slings and arrows.

Dave Braun
02:20:32
Yeah. That aspirational, lofty goal will help give you a little bit of energy as well.

Larry Broughton
02:20:37
Great point.

Dave Braun
02:20:38
Yeah. And there will be times when you say, you know, okay. I know I, you know, I’m feeling a little bit burned out, but okay. I know I’m gonna have to go through some of these if I’m going to be successful at it. Yeah. So you become a little bit more self-aware like we talking about knowing your breaking point previously. Yeah. That’s excellent. Yeah. You know, we, we talked about your, why your vision and mission, but you know, something that may be a little, little bit, and that may sound airy fairy and it’s not, believe me, but you know, maybe something a little bit more practical that we could do is shortening our work time some, right? So in other words, it could be that you were just working way, way too many hours. And that maybe what you could do, make a little bit of a contract agreement with yourself or a pack with yourself that says, all right, I’m gonna bust my butt for first three or four hours of the day. I’m gonna take the rest of the day off for three days a week or something like that. And then use that afternoon off to recharge yourself. And that’s really, really, you don’t just take the afternoon off to potentially, you know, Netflix, a bunch of shows. It would be something that would help you to restore. And Larry, I know you had a friend of yours that was doing something like this, not on a daily basis, but they were busting their butt for a few weeks. Every quarter.

Larry Broughton
02:22:08
Remember? Yeah. Yeah. Well, there’s two things I wanna wanna share. I’ll do that one second. But the first one is I did have a business partner years ago, who recognized before I did, I was approaching burnout. I was getting short. I was getting resentful, those types of things. And so he forced me. He said, dude, you have got to take at least one, three day weekend a month just to get away. And I said, but I’ve got so much to do. And he said, well, and he, he did talk me into it after some kicking and screaming, you become more productive when you have some emotional margin in your life. When you’re burned out, you lose efficiency. You’re not working in an optimal level. And so by taking like, like you said that half day, whatever it is, you gotta find something that works for you now.

Larry Broughton
02:22:55
Yes. I, I get that. You may be in a business where you’re in a season where you cannot take weekends off. I get that. Or two days off in a row, I understand that, there are seasons. But as you said, Dave, getting, taking a half off once a week, most people can figure that out. And if you know that, that is the goal, you’re going to sprint a little bit more. And that’s what my friend, I’m gonna use his name here, George Alonzo, who is a business broker. He owns a business brokerage. And I’ve shared the story a bunch of times where he takes four months off a year, takes one month off a quarter. I remember him saying, you know, I can sprint for eight weeks knowing that I’m gonna get four weeks off at the end of this. Think about that. Right. That’s a pretty great goal, but here’s the key. He didn’t do that just the first day he opened the business. He had to build a team around him. He had to have some support stuff. He had to make sure he had a team that was working in their strengths about all the stuff that we were talking about earlier. Yeah. Right. And so he and his bride every, you know, quarter take a month. Wow. How awesome would that be?

Dave Braun
02:24:07
That would be amazing. But you know, to me that requires a ton of discipline because there’s always gonna be that temptation after those eight weeks. Oh, wow. I’m gonna be off for four weeks. Well, let me just cut into that because there’s this new project that I wanna do.

Larry Broughton
02:24:22
No. He schedules that in the beginning of the year, they know when they’re taking time off. Mm. I mean, obviously if there are, you know, marriages or deaths or those types of extreme things, they’ll cut into it. But most things they it’s Sacrosanct. Is that, that word? Yeah. Yeah.

Dave Braun
02:24:42
Yeah. Well, that’s, that’s good. I’m man, that’s a really good aspirational goal in and of itself. Yeah. You know, to really make a difference, to really push, you know, part of your time and then recover the rest of the time. That’s really cool.

Larry Broughton
02:24:59
Well, another thing Dave, is that if you can take this time off, like, like George does, that’s a time where you can actually really focus on trying new things. Yeah. Trying to really get good at something new, you know, like I, one of the things like I’ve been riding horses for years, but I’ve never take, never taken riding lessons. Ah right. And I can, I’ve decided I really, I wanna become a, like a really good or get really good at horseback riding. And so, and I’ve been thinking, right. I keep postponing it. I thought, well, I’m gonna do it during the pandemic. But I’m not, I’m not scheduling it yet. And so by taking time off, it forces you to do that. But find something that you really want to get good at, whether it’s guitar, playing or Ukelele playing, or maybe it’s a task in your or business, maybe something you you’ve realized, Hey, I’ve got an inclination towards this, but I’ve never really had an opportunity to get really good at it.

Larry Broughton
02:25:58
Right. But Dave, to get really good at something, you’re gonna have to suck at it for a while. So it does take a little bit of humility in the beginning and you have to celebrate the little victory, little wins that you have along the way. So get really good at something. And oftentimes entrepreneurs leaders, high achievers have a hard time sucking at things. They wanna do things that they’re good at. But the folks I’ve seen who have had enduring success and who have grew own big businesses and they still have joy in their life are those people who are willing to fail and start things new. I just did a, a series of interviews for a new general manager for one of our hotels last week. And it was one of the things I was asking like, when’s the last time you learned something new? For most of us, it’s a dip like, oh my gosh, I can’t, I can’t remember when I tried something new. You on the other hand, Dave, who’s a learner. You’re learning stuff new all the time.

Dave Braun
02:27:02
Trying to yeah.

Larry Broughton
02:27:03
Yeah. Trying to, yeah. So anyway.

Dave Braun
02:27:06
Yeah. That’s good stuff.

Larry Broughton
02:27:07
I, I think that that’ll help people out by trying something new.

Dave Braun
02:27:10
Hey, you know, we are folks we’ve been at this for like 20 plus minutes. We still have a ways to go, Larry, you want to power through?

Larry Broughton
02:27:19
Let’s do another one and then maybe we can break it into part three.

Dave Braun
02:27:22
Okay. Let’s do that. So related to that, you know, get really getting really good at something you may have to, if you’re gonna do that or if you’re gonna journal or you may have to do something like changing your physical working location.

Larry Broughton
02:27:38
Oh gosh. Yeah.

Dave Braun
02:27:38
Right. Maybe not every day, but on, you know, on occasion, you know, I’ve had some times Larry, when you know where you’re working and from home, I’m working from home, we’ve had, I’ve had some times when the power’s been out for the day and then I’ll go somewhere else. It’s amazing. Even if I’ve gone to a McDonald’s and sat in there with a bunch of people around me, just going there, different place, I have felt really, really productive. I was able to block everything out. Just that change of environment helps. Now, like for me personally, I’ve got three monitors, you know, my MacBook pro and I got two on the sides and those help me to be productive. But mentally sometimes, just going somewhere else is gonna really, really help.

Larry Broughton
02:28:25
Yeah. There’s times for me, where I’ve gone to the backyard, I’ve got a nice view out towards, you know, you you’ve seen it, Dave. Yeah. That has kind of inspired me at times. I had some work being done on my house about a month ago, and this is so silly, but I just went and I worked in my car. I parked my car in nice place and was sitting out with a beautiful view. And you know, my car has that sun roof felt like I was sitting out in the open space, but I had the power. I had the AC going and, you know, working on my computer, I was shocked at how productive I felt. I really agree with you with that, Dave. I remember. And it’s time for me to do it again. I remember it’s kind of like I’m in the same space, but I did change my office around. I had my desk on the other wall for a while. Yeah. And just changing that up made me feel like, wow, I’m kind of in the new, new space. You gotta trick your mind a little bit sometimes.

Dave Braun
02:29:25
So, yeah. And you know, one of the things that I think is also important, I cuz I got several clients who have little kids. And working from home with little kids is tough. Even that with the demands on them and everything from them on you interrupting you, you feel like you can’t get done what you need to get done. Gosh, even that is, is pretty hard. Can lead the burnout. And so I’ve suggested a couple of ’em, you know, maybe you can arrange it. So where you could go a couple days, a week to a co-working space to really concentrate.

Larry Broughton
02:29:58
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey Dave, I like you said, we’ve been going for a while. I know some people like could sit here and listen for a whole hour, but I can think that we we’ve probably got at least five or six more. I’ve got a few in my mind. I’m sure you do as well. So why don’t we wrap this one up and then come back with a part three on this and I guess we’re gonna have to, if we’ve not published, the other ones it’ll have to be part one of three part two of three and part three of sorry, folks. Thanks for your patience for staying with us. Hopefully you’re finding some value out of this, but this, this burnout topic, Dave, I think is so critically important because if you’re feeling burned out in your professional life, I swear to God, those people that are in your personal life recognize it as well. And you’re not showing up to be the best love partner, the best parent, the best friend are in your life. Because we cannot like someone who lied to me early on in my life. Somebody I looked to as, as a mentor, who said, you gotta live your life in these compartments, that is not the long term recipe for success.

Dave Braun
03:30:55
Yeah, I agree.

Larry Broughton
03:30:55
Agree, because it really, it doesn’t work.

Dave Braun
03:30:59
All right. Well this wrap up part two of part. Oh, of three parts now. All right. Yeah. All right. Well thank you for joining us today. Everyone. Remember building a team is the way to reclaim your freedom to help you avoid burnout. And of course, we’re here to help you with our Course and Community and our White Glove Service where we will find a rockstar VA for you. Three things we’d love for you to do and of course we’d really appreciate it. Number one, subscribe to podcast, if you haven’t already done so. Either on your iPhone or your Android phone, just get those episodes directly to you so you can join with us easily on a, a weekly basis. And then of course on YouTube, if you’re watching us there hit the little subscribe button and click on the bell next to it to get reminders.

Dave Braun
03:31:44
And then of course we’d love for you to give us a rating. Five star. That’d be awesome. If there was 10 star, do a 10 star, but give us the max, if you could, but leave a comment below this video. Any comment, tell us some ideas about how you’ve avoided burnout or maybe when you were close in some of the things that you did, that’ll help the entire audience and it’ll also help us to get the word out. And then of course, number three is go to Hiremyva.com for more information on our Course and Cmmunity and our White Glove Service. And remember even without experience or even if you’ve had bad experiences, you’ll learn how to prepare for higher and thrive with virtual assistants. Larry, we’ve helped a lot of folks, we’re continuing to help more and more. Yep. And we wanna help you too. So just go to Hiremyva.com for more information.

Larry Broughton
03:32:36
Yep. Folks. We love you. We’re glad that you’re going on this journey with us. Do yourself a favor, do the world a favor. Go do something significant today. God bless you, God keep you and God hold you. We’ll see you on the next one. Okay. Bye everybody.

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